The relationship between Michelle (58) and Barack Obama (61) has been put to the test by raising their daughters. In the “Revolt” talk show, the former first lady spoke about the fact that she couldn’t stand her husband for ten years.

At the table, she explained the challenge of having two young children in a relationship: “We don’t talk a lot about how much work it takes and how hard it is, even when you love the person very much and everything is going well,” says Michelle about her marriage to the former president, which has produced daughters Malia Ann, 24, and Natasha, 21.

“People think I’m being hateful when I say, ‘There were ten years I couldn’t stand my husband. And when was that time? When the kids were little,'” Obama said. During that time, the couple tried to simultaneously pursue their careers while also taking care of things like school and sharing chores.

The mother of two did not feel equal: “Marriage is not 50/50, never, never. There are times when I do 70, he 30 [percent]. There are times when he makes 60, I 40. But you know ten years – we’re married 30. I’ll take ten bad years for 30 – it just depends on how you look at it.” Instead, many people would give up and after five years think they could no longer do it.

Obama goes on to describe the challenges of raising children: “Little kids, they’re terrorists. They have demands. They don’t speak. They’re bad communicators. They cry all the time. They’re irrational. They’re needy. And you love them. And that’s why you can’t blame them, can you? . . . So you turn your anger on each other.”

Nevertheless, she always respected and admired her husband. “I mean, you can be mad at him, but you still look at him and you’re like, ‘I’m not happy with you, but I respect you. I don’t agree with you, but you’re still a good, smart person .'”